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sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:


You do actually know that's not what Godwin's law is right?

The actual Godwin's law is "The longer a thread continues the more likely it is someone will be compaired to hitler."

It has actually nothing to do with winning an arugement.

And even in the context of "winning" and arguement which came later it's about making a dumb comparison to hilter.

IE Bush is Hitler, Obama is Hitler, etc.

Comparing Hitler to Stalin isn't ridiculious.

Simply bringing up hitler constituting losing an arguement would be quite hilarious for people who start threads like "I think Hitler sucked."

 

That aside, so quite literally you actually do believe someone who kills 2 people isn't as bad as someone who kills 1 person because they were a racist.

 

Also, any actual proof that their is a higher reoffense rate for hate crimes then non hate crimes?  Or just speculation?

I know what Goodwin's Law is. It was just an observation, I didn't say that you were using Hitler to try and win any arguments. Plus, I thought this was just a friendly conversation, when did it turn into an argument that needed winning? I don't think I've ever seen a topic on this site where a person ever officially won (most of the time people just forget about a certain thread, and it dies out). If I knew it was I would've skipped classes and done some research. )

Yes, it's speculation at this point, if I have time later today I'll try doing some research and see if I find something more concrete.


Let me help you out.  Property crimes have the largest rate of recidivism.

http://www.sgc.wa.gov/PUBS/Recidivism/Adult_Recidivism_CY04.pdf

 

Crimes done for economic benefit are done so because... well economic benefit.  So if you beat someone up for their money... you have good incentive to do so again.

If you beat someone up because they are a different race for fun... and you go to jail for a while.

What is your benefit to do so again?


Racists aren't mentally ill or anything... (well some are)

They beat people up of another race by actual choice.  Not compulsion or need.


Therefore rcidivism SHOULD be lower then people of compulsion (crazy) or need (poor).