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Kasz216 said:

Those aren't the same crimes.

Hate crime laws are laws that take the same crime and add additional penalties on to it because it is a hate crime.

All of your examples are invalid.

Hate crime laws come into effect after the crime committed has been decided.  

As in... someone is walking down the street... they bump into that person accidentally, then stabs them intentionally.

Should they be punished differently because

A) He did it because he was black.

B) He did it because he wanted to

C) He did it because he was angry

We are talking exact same circumstances here... exact same facts of the crime... exact same control of their faculties.  There are no accidents or extreme mental problems... just outright adults doing the same crime for different reasons.


Alright lets use your scenerio.

A man is walking down the street accidently bumps into a man and stabs him

Why did the individual stab the man?

A) Because he suffers froma mental disorder and is off his medication. He has a very hard time controlling his anger and flips out stabbing the man

B) He bumps into the man notices the mans black. He decides because he hates black people to stab the man

C) The man bumps into the man while looking for a victim to stab, being a serial offender he has stabbed many people and chooses to stab again. The wrong place at the wrong time.

D) The man bumps into another man with an unsheathed knife and accidently stabs him (Graises him)

E) The man accidently bumps into another man, thinking the man has money he pulls and knife and tries to rob the individual. The man resists so he is stabbed.

Four different motives. Should all of them be treated the same? All four situations are identicle. Their are different reasons. Should the man who is mentally unstable be treated the same as the repeate offender? Should the racist be treated the same as the robber? Should the accidental stabbing be treated the same as the Racist?

No all four the exact same crime carried out in the exact same or pretty much same fashion. But all four have different reasons.

Now what are you going to suggest.

The exact same crime carried out the exact same way for the exact same reasons. Should they be treated all the same?



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