Joelcool7 said:
Now we are switching the question. You said thief who stabbed people, then you said theif that killed someone for money. Now your saying serial killer. A racist who kills a half dozen people is a serial killer and is just as bad as any other serial killer. The crime is just as bad but why did the other man kill several people? Was it a mental illness?, was it psychological? Was it a hate crime? Example several serial Killers go around killing prostitutes because they hate them for what they are doing. Here in BC we had Pickton a serial killer who would pick up prostitutes and mutilate their bodies then feed their bodies to his pigs. Was he as bad as a racist serial killer, yah. Why was he killing? Out of hate and other sick fetishes and reasons. What is the motives behind the serial killer, its not like you just go around killing people for no reason? its almost always hate or psychological. I won't say all serial killers are nescessarily better then racist serial killers. Because thats not the question I origionally answered and that is not my opinion. Just because I think a hate crime like stabbing someone or burning a cross on someones lawn or attacking someone is worse then someone who does it for non hate purposes. Does not mean I think any murderer is better or worse then another murderer. Their are several motives behind murder and none of them are better or worse then one another. Geez stop trying to exagerate what I say. Also you keep changing your question as I pointed out. Each time getting more drastic and changing the basis of the question. If someone robs a man because their black is it worse then someone robbing a man because he's poor? (Yes) If someone accidently stabs a man in a botched robbery is it better then someone who hunts down a black man and stabs him over his skin colour. (Yes) If someone accidently kills a man in a botched robbery is he better then someone who kills a man intentionally because of skin colour. (Yes) If someone kills multiple people in robberies is he better then someone who kills multiple people over race/sexual orientation. (Well I said that nobody kills mutliple people in botched robberies) So the question you clarify changing your question yet again is. Is a serial killer who intentionally goes around killing people any better or worse then a serial killer who goes around killing based on skin colour? Answer - That is entirely different then robbery. The motive in both is a sick and twisted hateful or psychological motive. Both intend to kill and as such both are commiting the exact same crime. Their is no accident both set out to kill multiple people and as such both are equally psychotic and dangerous. Happy now. I've answered every one of your questions in all their revisions and forms. Now why don't you stop trying to stuff my ideology into a stereotypically black and white answer and actually read my opinions. I bet Sapphy has similiar views and if you choose to ask him his answers and he chooses to answer you and debate then that is his choice. But please don't go attacking people who aren't present to defend themselves or debate with you. Its just immature and wrong. |
Actually, I was just providing more information that proved your points wrong. You know, that's why each new post had new information.
As for the hate crime statistics... I looked up a news article on hate crimes in Canada in 2008. Then compaired it with the 2008 stats compiled by the Derpatment of Justice. It was roughly 1,000 vs roughly 10,000.
Someone stabbing someone accidentally is not even the same crime as intentionally stabbing someone is not even the same crime. Not in the US anyway.
The question is... and I'll restate it again.
If two people comit the exact same crime, the exact same way, and cause the exact same outcome. Is it worse because one person did so because the other person was black/gay whatever compaired to any other reason they may have.
Because when you have specific hate crime laws... that's exactly what it means.
It means if you intentionally stab someone because they were black. This is worse then intentionally stabbing someone just because you felt like it. Or for intentionally stabbing someone because you wanted to rob them and wanted no witnesses or any other reason you could come up with in your head.
