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Hus on 08 November 2010
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Michael-5 said:
Hus said:
Michael-5 said:
Hus said:
 

LMFAO 3m

GT5 will easily do 3m this year in E alone if its given a couple weeks of release before xmas. 

I just dont get whats so hard to understand, GT is to Europe as HAlo is to NA . 

No GT ever has sold 3 million in EMEAA in a few weeks. GT sales take a long time to accumulate. 3 mllion is a bottom barrier, still about 35% greater then GT5P, so it's a good bottom bracket. It's also not that much below GT2, so very possible.

GT does have EMEAA, I don't argue that, but you claimed GT5 will easily do 6-8 million in Europe (not EMEAA), something no GT game has done before, and you also claimed 3 million in Europe (again not EMEAA) in the few weeks left in the year, again something no GT game has done before.

6-8 million is almost impossible for Europe alone for GT, especially since UK (the biggest game purchasing country in Europe) is 360 biased.

I'm only telling you that your predictions are very strong, and you shouldn't laugh at, or be critical of people who have lower predictions then you. Assuming GT5 will be the best selling GT does not make it so (and your predictions seem like they assume that). It's more plausible for GT to be the 2nd-worst selling GT game, and talking about EMEAA sales, 3-6million is the range of older GT games, why assume GT5 will do better? It can, but don't assume..

And NO GT EVER had a pre xmas Euro release. 

Do you comprehand what that means ?  Possibly the strongest Euro oriented gaming franchise is getting a holiday release there for the first time, no need to assume.

Seems most of you are unaware of that little fact. 

Well GT5 release date is still unconfirmed, it could be delayed again to post christmas an be released in January like GT2, or in February like GT4. Still good point about GT5 being the first GT game (In Europe) not to have a pre-christmas release.  GT1, 2, and 4 were released before the Japanese holiday season, and our christmas, and GT2 was released on December 23rd 1999 in NA.

However does that make a difference? Mass Effect 2 is selling proportional units to ME1 and it was released in January, Most of the bigger hardcore Wii games were released outside the holiday season, and they all sell about the same numbers. Metal Gear Solid 4 sold as well as MGS3, and just below MGS1 and MGS2, and it was released in April. GTA IV was released in April and it sold just as well as past GTA games.

Even if you look at Forza, Forza 2 was released in August, and it's selling just as well as Forza 3 which was released in October, and GT games have been released all throughout the year in EMEAA and all sell about the same. (GT2-January, GT4-February, GT1-May, GT3-July).

I think Most developers have realized this, and thats why were seeing more games come out year round. The only benefit a fall release has is higher early sales.

Like I said, there are many pros and cons to why GT5 will sell better or worse then past GT's. Analysts who predict sales do a lot more then look at these types of factors, and people like you or I only have opinions, and gut feelings.


What in the hell do past GT Japanese or NA release dates have to do with Europe ? seriously when debating stay on topic.

Forza sales are irrlevent.  Its no where in GTs league, how other car games sale don't and never have had any relevence on GT sales.   By the way we only have week by week sales for GT4 so quit spouting bs as fact that other GT sold the same.  We are arguing early sales not the final count. 

WEll duhh the fall release = bigger sales thats why i said

  "GT5 will easily do 3m this year in E alone if its given a couple weeks of release before xmas."

see ^^^^ this is what we were debating, im not sure just where you are going with your argument since you are actully helping me prove my reason for higher then before early GT sales.  (xmas) 

Analysts know shit all if Patcher is considered an analyst.  Do not in any way consider your self liek me, i can plainly see you dont know what you are posting about.  I know GT casue its the sole reason i own consoles, you clearly dont.    There really are no cons to why GT5 will sale less then previous GTs.  You may wish there were but there arent.