| babuks said: You have tried to show Jizya as a bad thing. You can think of it this way, we Muslims give zakat which is a religious duty and don't force the non-muslims to perform the duty of Islam. So, they have a tax to pay imposed from an Islamic state. You have to give some sort of tax as a citizen. So, Muslims give zakat and Non-Muslims give Jizya. Now, can you tell me about the condition of the immigrants to your country from poor or underdeveloped countries? Do they have the same working and living right like you as citizen have? What if the immigrant has entered your country illegally. Now, an immigrant can get a green card or citizenship only when he agrees to abide by the law of your country. So, you are forcing him to follow your law in order to allow him the right to stay in your country. But if an Islamic country wants to do the same thing by saying that if you want to stay in a Islamic country as non-muslim, you must pay Jizya, it becomes hard for you.
@ LostPlanet 22, Liberal? That's why the British couple had to go to jail for a kiss? If that is kind of Liberal you like I pass;. Perhaps you can explain the boycotting of Army Generals the meeting with the President because his wife wore hijab on the head (this is an incident of Turkey few days ago). So, you want to liberate the people by not allowing them to wear what he or she likes? If being nude in public is prohibited in your law, what is the wrong for and Islamic state to prohibit kissing in public? Why do you always think what you prohibit is always right and what others do is not? This is where I pass. |
@babuks
you only fotgot that zakat was twice lower than jizya and some times even more. You also forgot that christians were not immigrants but locals, on the contrary muslims were not locals but invaders.
For example - in Ottoman empire in 1490 form Sofia Sanjak, muslim families with a member in the army paid 7 akche, muslim families without a member in the army - 22-24 akche, christians families - 74-76 akche. Or in other words christians paid 3 times more then muslims. This was one of the main ways muslims pressured non-muslins to convert.
