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Joelcool7 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Joelcool7 said:

I like the fact that I live in a multicultural country where all people of all races and religions can live free of fear of racist pricks.

Yep... no racism in Canada... none at all.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/06/09/stats-can.html

Everyone can live happily and free with no problems! Its a utopia.



Chairman-Mao said:

12 years wtf? Pretty sure that's about the same as rape. Don't think that's fair but whatever.

I honestly don't think there should be "hate crimes" at all, a crime is a crime is a crime as far as I'm concerned doesn't matter if a white guy did it to a black guy or a black guy did it to a white guy (in which case it wouldn't be considered racist btw, but that's for another discussion)

I'd agree with that in most cases. But cases like burning a cross, is that really a crime? It becomes a crime because of how it is done. Same with drawing a Swastika on someones house. Its just a drawing right. Legally your just vandalizing. But it is used to intimidate and harrass and abuse citizens. Making it a hate crime.

As far as Mr.Puggsly your right their are still alot of racist crimes commited in Canada. No countries perfect but our laws do protect those who are attacked. I know where I live Indo-Canadians always attack white guys, in turn white guys attack indo Canadians. Asians in Vancouver get attacked and attack in turn.

But for the most part Canada is a country where people of all races and religions do live peacefully amongst each other. KKK is non-existant here and while their are some neo-Nazi's they are also dissapearing. It's not like the USA or many other countries.


First off, burning a cross creates a significant risk of the fire spreading and burning down the house and it is a sign of harassment so it is a very serious crime.

Secondly, in sentencing a judge has leeway to determine whether a crime was "worse" than another crime and give an appropriate punishment. Why are hate-crime laws needed?