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kowenicki said:
Vetteman94 said:

So is this Microsoft realizing that their "core" games wont work without an actual controller??  



I'm pretty sure they always knew this...  as did everyone else.

They were ALWAYS going to release hybrid games... its kind of obvious.

how long have you known this?

Because I've seen at least a couple posts where you showed no inkling.

One was where you were arguing that 

One was a thread by richardhutnik asking how MS was going to convert kinect users to core users using the idea that nintendo converted casuals to core because of the controller itself. Getting users started with simple motion controls would lead to holding a controller in the traditional way. You said you had no idea, and then defended it by saying nintendo hasn't converted many anyways.

Then in another thread, you said that ps move wouldn't sell as much as kinect because core gamers would stick to the standard controller.