freedquaker said:
This is your perspective conditioned by the today's media. Homosexuality, which involves two individuals engaging in sexual activity in a non-procreative way is in no way normal. The two genders are created for each other, not the other way around. Only a fraction of homosexuality today can scientifically be attributed to genetical heritage (I have a paper on this issue, which could not be refuted), and even then it does not mean it is normal, natural or justified. The portion that is naturally claimed by genetic disposition is around 2% (way below 5% of the probable fenotype), is no more than other disfunctions exhibited in the animal kingdom observed, which doesn't make it normal. When you are born with two 6 fingers or one kidney, it's still an anomaly. Besides, the genetic occurence of homosexuality is not due to a direct effect, otherwise, the homosexuals, who cannot procreate would have been extinct long ago. It's an anomaly that happens somewhat randomly. In other words, two complete straightforward parents with complete straight forward ancestry can still have homosexual kids at birth. Therefore this is not a direct genetic heritage, ruling out the norm. On top of that, around 60% of the homosexuals were not homosexuals at birth, but became one due to environmental influence. It's not discrimatory, and modern world's understanding is distorted. By your logic, it's discrimatory to ban people from besitality, or from sex with minors. In besitality case, you don't know if the animal concedes or not, and in sex minors case, you do not care about his/her consent. Gay marriage distorts family values because children are supposed to grow up in a family with a mother and a father, not two fathers or mothers, which is totally unnatural. |
Firstly. Theres no evidence that we were created, all evidence points towards evolution via natural selection.
Secondly. My observation was that homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom, read Bonobos as a prominant example. If homosexuality exists, then its normal in the sense that it occurs again and again. This is supported by the fact that it also occurs in all human socities. And since I can't see anything negative about a person thats attracted to the opposite sex having sex with someone who has similar sexual desires why would I want to put a stop to it?
Thirdly. If only a fraction of genetic homosexuality exists then that still means that homosexuality can occur naturally, even if it is a random mutation or comes as a bi-product of something else. And if homosexuality can occur via external influences aswell look at where it originates (read the traditional family!). Which means that traditional families can give rise to homosexuality! I really don't care enough about an adults sexual desires aslong as its consented to by the other party involved and they're adults.
Fourthly: Don't change the goalposts. Bestaility and sex between and with minors are completely different subjects that would demand their own topics.
I am pro gay rights because I have known many gay people in my time who were very commited and in love with each other. I wouldn't dream of attempting to stop them being in a relationship, firstly because its none of my business what they do in the bedroom and secondly because I support the separation of church and state. I honestly don't care that much about peoples sex lives to want to put a stop to them having consentual sex if they so please.
