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babuks said:

"Are you seriously asking how one draws the line between a child being used for sex and two consenting adults deciding to have sex? It's not like Christianity embraces the whole issue either, plenty of harassment from them too. I don't think religious acceptance is going to be easy. But if you protest that gay people don't deserve to live, don't be surprised that yours is being perceived as an extremist's view. Christians having the same ambitions are perceived the same way, and giving a bad name to Christianity."

 

That was one sample for you. If you don't agree with it, just get another example. Again, how to do you think sex with a 16 year old is illegal and with 18 years not illegal? How do you draw that line? Don't the 16 years girls understand and have physical capability of having it?

Well, age of consent is 16 here (now). Mind you, doesn't make much sense to not be allowed to buy porn when you can screw as much as you want at that age. There have been debates around it, as well as about starring in porn. Ultimately it's a "let's protect kids from TOO MUCH sex" thing, and sex has come with so much hush around it for so long, it's not likely to go away that fast. Plus the industry is one that can ruin other career prospects, so holding you back until you can make that decision as legally adult isn't that bad.
Splitting hairs over 16 or 18 is one thing however (e.g. in Hong Kong 16 y/o can star in porn), but according to wiki 91% of the children appear to be under 12, and that's another thing entirely.

"Don't do yourself the disservice of giving that example. Unless you really view yourself and the others belonging to Islam as an army. An army isn't associated with peace. Soldiers take orders so more the pity if you were born into this army without ever evaluating anything for yourself."

Why not? A person enters into the Army of his own choice. Again, who said an Army isn't associated with peace? The basic purpose of an Army is to protect the country, don't you know it? And protecting the country brings peace, isn't it?

A baby enters that army by making the choice, right? Indoctrination is one of the biggest issues I have with any religion. But grats on being the biggest religious army. Are you on leave when you travel to other countries, or are you invading?
Luckily I haven't actually met a Muslim who's tried to act Solder of Allah-like around me and kill me for being gay. And that's the norm here (sparing gay people's lives, not being gay), so it blends in, people don't notice it much, don't make a huge deal out of a Muslim behaving in a way that's deemed normal. They notice other things, more on that below.

The question here was about non-Muslims, not people who left it. Like I am. Criticising some of your views now, not agreeing with them, not seeing them as pure, just etc.

 

Can you tell me why the BBC RJ was suspended for preaching false death news of the Queen as a joke? When Prophet Muhammad (Peace be Upon Him) is drawn as a terrorist while he preached peace in his entire life, the cartoonist is not punished and it is viewed as a freedom of speech thing. Do you see the double standard Muslims are victim of?

If you want to criticize, you have to be constructive. What is so constructive in criticizing the Prophet falsely?

RJ? I think he was some Kelly guy, and he seems to be back. there was a JR I think, who did some sex harassment prank calls, not sure if he was fired. Ultimately both were perceived as jokes in poor taste, and if I go ahead and draw a cock on the whiteboard during a meeting, that could get me fired as well. Fired, not executed.

But from a Western perspective look at this. You call yourself an army. Adultery - kill. Gay - kill. Leave religion - kill. Blasphemy - kill. Sure it's wrong to kill without justification, but you find that justification in your religion, so don't wonder too much why it and its prophet aren't seen as peaceful.
It's not like the West hasn't done it. Less often terrorism and usually just full scale war and invasion. Feel free to criticize, you will have plenty of material from the West criticizing and questioning 
itself about everything - religion, political systems, wars, you name it.