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Rath said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Rath said:
 

What? That's not what I was saying at all. Why would I want to uphold the constitution of a foreign country?

In fact - given that NZ doesn't really have a constiution - I don't see the need to uphold any constitution at all =P


Maybe you don't understand what a Constitution is then.

In the US, the 300 million people here own this country. It's ours. When we put people in office, it's there job to run the country in the vision we set. They don't get to make the rules, we do. The way you keep that balance in check, is to give them a document that outlines there authority. That tells them what the people allow them to do, and what they don't allow them to do.

This is the constitution. Without it, the elected shape the country, and not the people.

It's just a job description. I am sure if you hired someone to do something, you would put limits on what they can do as well. We hire the elected officials. They work for us. 

Without the constitution, what limits our workers (elected officials) from taking over the country?


You're taking me a bit more seriously than I meant to be taken. I was merely pointing out the fact that your statement that realising something about your constitution would change everybodies minds doesn't really work because this is an international forum.

And of course I understand what a constitution is. New Zealand has similiar rules - they just aren't all written down in one place.

 

Also, what was up with that 'freedom isn't for everyone' comment? It's a wee bit insulting that you're insinuating that I'm somehow anti-freedom because I don't agree with you.


The only thing that gives us freedom, is limiting the people in power with a set of rules that they must follow. To not care about those rules, is the same as not caring about freedom.

Without them, the country belongs to Washington, not the people. NZ is a total different situation. Ultimately, the Queen of England owns your country.

Sadly today, there is no diference in freedoms in your country and mine. In fact, you have more. That's because it seems many US citizens no longer care about freedom, and are willing to give it up for a country that provides for them. I for one, do care.