What is compassionate about a nation having a welfare system?

[TheRealMafoo]

Rath said:

TheRealMafoo said:

Rath said:

I feel no need to uphold your constitution, therefore any understanding of its meaning wouldn't change my opinion.

And this is why we will never agree on anything. I am one who wants rules that government officials are elected to uphold. You want a government where the elected officials make the rules.

Freedom isn't for everyone.

What? That's not what I was saying at all. Why would I want to uphold the constitution of a foreign country?

In fact - given that NZ doesn't really have a constiution - I don't see the need to uphold any constitution at all =P

Maybe you don't understand what a Constitution is then.

In the US, the 300 million people here own this country. It's ours. When we put people in office, it's there job to run the country in the vision we set. They don't get to make the rules, we do. The way you keep that balance in check, is to give them a document that outlines there authority. That tells them what the people allow them to do, and what they don't allow them to do.

This is the constitution. Without it, the elected shape the country, and not the people.

It's just a job description. I am sure if you hired someone to do something, you would put limits on what they can do as well. We hire the elected officials. They work for us. 

Without the constitution, what limits our workers (elected officials) from taking over the country?