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Persona 3,4 - CERO B (12 ) in Japan, 16 in Europe, M in the US

DDS and Devil Summoner are CERO C (15 ), 16 EU, M in US. I think Nocturne as well.

They are not light-hearted games, but kids aren't idiots and they don't need to be sheltered from all serious thinking. It's the same as with anime, hell Fullmetal Alchemist for example has a serious story going on, it has blood, it has people dying. What now, is it M?

TBH, in all likelihood, if that bill passes, games in those regions will be reviewed for a rating again, if they are looking for the "too violent" factor, and such games won't make it into the list. However, wording and point of view is everything, so there you have a game that's 12 in Japan and M in the US (with Japan being actually less tolerant of violence), so how are you going to put your faith in someone to decide just what is not acceptable on the same level as alcohol and porn?

edit: And I do agree that actually violent games could do with some more parental education in the matter, but ultimately, do you want a nanny state to do it for you? Plus in the end, there are no solid facts regarding short-term and long-term effects of these games aside from kids getting used to being obnoxious pricks online. Not an argument a government should bother with, otherwise they could go after all sorts of tv programmes potentially making people dumb, fast food making them fat and what not. (Mind you, I don't think porn needs the certified system either, everyone can get porn and it's actually one of the genres that parents are aware of).