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Kasz216 on 29 October 2010
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theprof00 said:
badgenome said:
theprof00 said:

I just disagree.

I wish I had more information with which to argue, but I barely follow politics anymore. It's just a headache. All I know is that Tea Party and GOP used ot be synonymous. Palin was looking like the candidate for next election. Tea party seemed like the new evolution of the republican party. A party by the people for the people. Now the people are gaining power and the GOP is trying to oust them. On top of that, the religious right is growing in power and trying to  claim a piece of the pie. 

That's just how it looks to me.

There were always different groups within the democrats, but the fundamentals were always the same. Social programs, regulation, equality, etc etc.

To me it just seems like the right is breaking apart.

I guess you really don't follow politics, because the Tea Party was definitely less synonymous with the GOP at its outset than it is now that almost all of the major "Tea Party backed" candidates are running on the Republican ticket.

I also don't see why you think the religious right is gaining in power. To me, they seem less relevant than at any point in my lifetime. The culture war stuff is almost nonexistent in this election, at least on the right, and "fiscal conservatism" is the watchword of the day, and what the fuck is up with this dude telling me how to find the Charisma bobblehead in Fallout 3 over and over again? God, I hate this autoplay shit.

If this is true, then I'm even more confused as to what is going on over at fox news.


Well it went like this.

 

1) The Tea Party movement started.

2) Fox news saw this and thought "Hey this is big news, or at least we could make it big news and we've got nothing right now.  It'll show the re-rise of the right."

3) Democrats combated this with claims of racism.

4)The Tea parties started surprising people, by supporting underdogs who would go on and win, and even in some cases befuddling local democrats by endorsing THEM because they were fiscally conservative.  Said politicians not wanting to lose support from them or the DNC basically answered with "Well cool, unexpect but all right.

5) The established GOP started to get worried about the Tea Party movement and formed their own Tea party movement to attempt to control it "Tea Party express" it might of been.... the one Palin fronts.

6) No fiscally conservative democrats really stepped up to the plate so they started running exclusivly on republican tickets because they were eaiser to win.

7) Rather then the Tea Party Express bringing the little groups back to the GOP proper, the little groups actually swayed the Tea Party Express towards them.   Palin Hijacked the GOP's Hijacking... trying to place herself near the top of a political movement with no real guranteed "leadership" or boys club.   Angry afterall as she thinks a lot of why some American's think she is stupid is because of the campaign decisions of the oldschool GOP.

8) The GOP, not wanting to support the Tea Party, but NEEDING those seats so they can get a majority have been funding the races... but trying to stand back.   With local establishment often getting pissed and siding with the democrats so they can hold on to their base of power (See Angle) fearfull if they actually win, the traditional GOP is done in those states/districts.

9) Democrats started picking on... O'donnel because the Republican's aren't going to waste money defending a candidate for a movement they'd like to see discredited... and the Democrats know this hoping by making her looney they can make the Tea Party look nutty.


As for Fox news... they're in the same place the regular GOP is.   Confused that something they thought would last a month is showing signs it may be around for years.