FinalEvangelion said:
UncleScrooge said:
legend92(3) said:
UncleScrooge said:
What about this: Someone just asks ioi for an explanation and whether the PS3 was undertracked or not.
Either Sony just stuffed the channel because there was a new SKU released last quarter (you need more stock when people can either buy a Move bundle or a hardware-only bundle) or vgchartz undertracked it.
There's no need to make a huge deal about it, really. You guys are fighting like crazy. It's quite possible that Sony stuffed the channel with the Move bundle and to reach their shipment targets and it's also quite possible that vgchartz undertracked the sales.
But neither screaming "overshipped!" without an end nor making comments that sound like vgchartz is intentionally undertracking the sales will help in any way.
So why don't you just calm down and ask ioi? And then accept whatever he says.
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Well first off, Sony cant just stuff the channels store have to order consoles before Sony can ship them off. Secondly, I wouldn't just accept his answer because believe it or not he's not always right. Unlike Sony's numbers that are accurate and have to be by law.
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Ok I'll give it another try: It is possible Sony stuffed the channels because of the new SKU with the Move bundle. Yes they can stuff the channels to some degree. I never said they did, though. That would surely be many units on shelves. I just said you should accept whatever ioi says because, frankly, this is his website and he's going to present you whatever numbers he tracked. You will have to accept his explanation because there is nothing you can do about it. 
And that "believe it or not he's not always right" part was just rude and totally uncalled for. That statement was aimed at both sides of the people arguing here.
God damn why are you guys getting so crazy over something like this? There's no need to attack each other. If the PS3 is undertracked I'm sure the numbers will be updated. But arguing in this thread isn't going to stop it or make it happen.
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If they do stuff the channel, the quarter to quarter shipments would show it. Eventually, there will be compensation. If the channel is stuffed in one quarter, there will be less in the next quarter. If shipments come in at 7 million for Q3 (my prediction), then the retailer demand probably is the consumer demand.
What people are getting frustrated about is that the claims of overshipment and stuffing the channel are not being backed up by the ones that are claiming that. If anything, retailers would probably be more cautious on how much PS products are being bought due to its performance this generation.
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Well, reading yours and Darth's comment (which was funny ) I think it's more likely the sales have been undertracked. Sure retailers wouldn't want their channels stuffed all the time, although you can never know for sure because of the Move bundle being a new SKU and retailers possibly overestimated demand. But yes, it's more likely the sales have been undertracked in that case.
I just don't get why people are screaming at each other... well, I do get it but it's still a bit over the top. 
