What is compassionate about a nation having a welfare system?

[TheRealMafoo]

Killiana1a said:

TheRealMafoo said:

richardhutnik said:

The norm for government run welfare is to take money from others via taxes (money people don't willingly give) and hand it over to a system with individuals who do the work as a job.  

That's not welfare, that's government employment. Welfare is handing it over to individuals in which you get no production in return.

The problem with this system, is you take the liberty of one group, to care for another. Where is the compassion is stealing from a group of people your elected to represent?

Look, if I became president and found a way to feed/house millions of people without taking from others, I would love to do it. But as an elected official of the US Federal Government, I would have to take an oath to uphold the Constitution to all I represent. This means I am not allowed to take from people, regardless of how good of a cause I think it is. I just don't have that authority, just because I have the power.

No one who is not a Libertarian understands that. As soon as you do, you will become one.

How much in no-bid contracts and the annual Federal budget would you allocate to the military industrial complex? How much would you would you allocate to farmers in subsidies?

Well, bidding on something is not the problem. There are things you don't ask for a bid on, because you know only one company can do the work. Why ask people to spend millions of dollars on something, when you know it will mean nothing?

That said, 90% of the money we spend on military I would end. I would end both wars. I would also end farmers subsidies.

I would end federally funded education. I would end Social Security, I would end Welfare, I would end military buildup. If there is a need for military research (and in some areas, there is), I would continue to fund it.

If there is no military need for NASA, I would end it.

I would aslo submit to repeal the 16th amendment (federal income tax).

I would put our money back on some standard, so a dollar has real value.

I would remove 95% of all the laws the federal government has made. I would remove laws that make drugs illegal, gives tax breaks to people who have kids, tax breaks to home ownership (this is where the federal government should collect it's money).

The Constitution was a document designed to limit what the federal government could put there hands in. Today, they tell you what you can eat, what you can drive, what you can wear, what your allowed to live in, what kind of medical care you must have, and something about every faset of your life. This is not what the federal government was put in place to do.

The things I want to change, 120 years ago, was the way things were. It's not crazy talk. Over the last 100 years the US Federal government has used its power to take control over everything.

Do you think we are better off for it? I sure as hell don't