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Rath said:
TheRealMafoo said:

Wow.

Do you think Obama could win in a knife fight? How about Clinton (Bill or Hillary)?

You pick people who got where they are because of intellect. Of course they won't win in a knife fight. It has nothing to do with there ideology.

It's simple really. If you think the US President/Congress should defend the constitution for all people, your a libertarian. If you think they should care more about one group over another, and sacrifice the liberty of the group they cares less for in favor of the one they care more for, your not.

It's nothing more or less then that. I happen to feel when your elected President, your job is to defend the rights of all 300 million people in this country, not just the ones you like.

That does not mean I will win or lose a knife fight.

I don't see why you (and other Americans) hold the constitution to be some sort of timeless document of "WHAT IS RIGHT".

Lets face it, it was written many years ago in a very different society. Your other arguments (while I disagree with them, but I posted about that in one of the other threads) are more compelling because they aren't an appeal to this authority.

The Constitution was last written in 1992, and if people want to update it, it can be updated. The only reason it's hard to do, is because what's in it still applies today.

"WHAT IS RIGHT" is for a country who gets to shape it's laws to uphold the laws.

If taking money from people so others can have healthcare is "RIGHT", fine. Put it in the constitution. If you can't get the Governors of 3/4 the states to agree with you, then it's not right.

I can tell you this. Saying fuck the document. We know what's best for everyone and nothing should stand in our way, is most assuredly not right.