Gran Turismo 5 will fail to sell...

[FinalEvangelion]

evolution_1ne said:

atma998 said:

evolution_1ne said:

"to answer your question, no, it won't sell as well as previous installments that's for sure".

and you have proof of this?? I mean for sure???? you got a time time machine O_O,

sounds more like wishful thinking.

 

now fact: both GT1 and GT3 being the first GT titles on a playstation console just like GT5 both went on to sell the most in their respective generations over the squeals on install bases LESS than what the ps3 currently has,

so please tell me how the hell GT5 will with out a doubt, despite having more content than any racer released this gen, sure shot at AAA on a larger install base than the ps1 and 2 at the release of the first GT titles on those console will sell anything less than previous installments??

1- The PS1 and PS2 userbases were eventually expanded to some numbers the PS3 won't ever come close.

A. what the hell does that have to do with anything, and B. the ps3 WILL reach the user base of the ps1/2 when GT1/3 crossed the 10 million mark.

2- In opposition to previous generations, no PS3 games ever reached 10M, not even the mighty GTAIV. CoD:MW2 might eventually reach it but the franchise had become far more popular than GT.

ps2 is the highest selling console of all time and only had 5 10 million sellers and of only 2 franchises, GTA and GT, GTA this gen didn't have the playstation timed exclusivity it had last gen.

and the only console released this gen was GT5:P so you have no proof of the  popularity compared to GT franchise.

3- The (simulator) racing genre seems to be in decline if we're looking at previous GT or Need for Speed titles for example.

umm wrong, GT5:p is the only GT title this gen and has done triple that of previous prologue versions, and no need for speed has ever been and sim and the quality of that franchise hit rock bottom after most wanted. 

After taking these 3 points into consideration, we can conclude it would be ''wishful thinking'' to think GT5 can reach 6 or 8M, unless of course, the game is heavily bundled. 10-12 million seems more reasonable.

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Nicely done, evolution.

 

The PS1 shipped 102m units.  The PS2 are going to be hard numbers to reach, but I do think the PS3 can get close to PS1 figures.  The PS3 will be somewhere between 50-60m units before the next price drop.  That will be selling at least the launch price of the PS1 and PS2.

What many people seem to ignore here is the derivative of sales - which if anyone has taken marketing courses would understand.  Basically, it's taking into account the sales rates and how they change.  It explains the Wii sales trends alot in how it's been dropping so drastically.  Generally (not all cases, but generally being the key word), products that accelerate up the adoption curve quickly tend to decelerate quickly.  Wii exploded in the initial stages, while PS3 has been slowly increasing it's rate of sales and still seems to.

 

The PS3 going to $199 with the release of the PSThree (probably fall 2011) is going to be a whole new beast on these forums.  If you thought the Slim and Move was bad, wait and see...