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Calmador said:
A203D said:
Calmador said:
A203D said:

darth when you said Jim Sterling gave it a 5,  i thought you meant 5 out of 5. it seems that he didnt like the game at all as its 5/10 not 5/5 as i thought. either way, its obvious that the western reviews that are about 8.5 or lower are focusing on things like story, character development and length. comparatively something like MW2 has a 4 hour campagian, or can anybody really say that western shooters like Gears or Halo have rich characters built over a tapestry of Shakesphearian storytelling.

either way, its obvious that a lot of reviews are discrediting things that are probabily weaker in western shooters, gonna trust the Jp reviews for this one!!

This a single player shooter that is 6 hours long.......................................... single player shooters should have a great stor/substance and a nice long campaign...

Bioshock is a great example of a single player shooter.... Vanguish is just flashy and like Jim sterling said... it has the Japanese mentality of hey lets throw a bunch of things at the player and pretend we made a hard game(EPIC FACE PALM!) Its true... it feels like Samurai Warrior, Nighty Nine NIghts.... kinda but on a smaller scale... terrible A.I. but lots of enemies... what does that give you? A bunch of retards to fight. Don't worry tho... it's 6 hours long so the bad ends quickly...

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My impressions... be careful with your purchase.

Fair enough it a little short, but this is the same company that gave us Bayonetta and thats about 40/50 hours long on subsequent playthroughs, i'm sure Vanquish supports that design. Bioshock is a good game, but i the problem i felt was even though its a good length for a shooter a lot of the game is recycled.

i mean you have to go through the same areas several times, and the enemies continuously respawn, the areas take too long to traverse and get to tedious when going back and forth, like making the bomb, or collecting stuff for the lab thing.

it seems like Vanquish is more innovative in terms of gameplay than other shooters, ie Bioshock, which follows the same patterns of engagement similar to other FPS, where as Vanquish introduces new mechanics to improve the action, i suppose it is flashly, but it that necessarily a bad thing when a game has high production values. ie Uncharted 2. i would say Dead Space is actully better than Bioshock, because it keeps the game fresh, instead of repeat backtracking, enemy respawns etc, but Vanquish is different from those because its a more high octane, speed based shooter, those are more atmospheric driven games.

Edit: and that hacking minigame in Bioshock was a waste of time and imho shite.

Vanguish is innovating.... and that's the main reason it got my attention... "EVERYONE" that saw the trailors was impressed. My problem is what we didn't see in the trailers... like you said yourself it's like Bayoneta when you can play it multiple times.... in other words its a SHUMP and that great but does the A.I. have to seem to... well A.I.? And the dailogue is kinda lame and cheesy. It doesn't have "soul".

Believe me I wanted to love this game pretty bad... especially when I went through the tutorial...by the time I was done with the tutorial... I was hyped and looking forward to the game. Then I was let down by the lack of "soul".

Bioshock is amazing... don't talk shite about Bioshock >_>

Anyways, I don't think we have anything else to say to each other, I hope Im wrong about the game.

My reasons weren't stupid at all.

I was criticizing the game's substance and length. A "SHUMP" notice I used the quotation marks, thats key) that isn't worth playing over and over again and that's 6 hours long is a big deal. Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

Having played Vanquish for a few hours, and into act 2, (dont have much time), i have to say that its a good game, but not really 'that' good. its fun, but the whole game is the same type of engagements over and over again. the problem is that i was expecting more quick time event during the cutscenes, its a bit a wasted oppertunity imo. but its still pretty good. i havent finished, so it probabily does get a bit better later on. 

nothing wrong with the enemy AI imo, but there could be a bit more variety with the enemies.

and imo Bioshock is an okay game, i've backed up why i think its okay, and i think those reasonable points.