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Gnizmo said:
ImJustBayuum said:

you cant ignore the collective power of the consumers (which include these random internet users).

And @ bolded

This is the first time I've heard of this. The only game that I can think of which this could be true is GT5..hmm


So you never heard of FFXIII I guess?

@Kaz
I have stated before I think you are right with how Bugrimmar is over reacting. Your analogy is, however, completely stupid. Food has a much smaller time frame for when could even be remotely  seen as acceptable, and you are completely stuck until the food arrives. Game don't work like that. You aren't sitting in front of your TV waiting for GT5 to show up or else you could die. It just doesn't work.

And again, if a couple week delay convinces you not to buy the game then you never really wanted it that bad. Duke Nukem Forever is over 12 years late. If someone would say "I wanted the game a couple years ago, but now I have just lost interest" then that seems reasonable to me. However this goes above and beyond that. This is the game being pushed back to probably later in the month and people throwing their hands up and calling it the worst thing ever.

And no, anyone who is stating the game has to be out by a certain point is being overly self important. Your individual $60 doesn't mean much of anything, sorry. You have the right to not buy their game, and thats cool. This isn't some niche studio that needs to felate their  audience in order to stay in the black. They have the money, time, and talent to improve the game over a long period of time and the customer has no right, no ability to force them to do otherwise. I say again, PD is not your bitch.

Development times this long are abnormal, but why is that suddenly terrible? Games that are a buggy mess get shit on mercilessly. Why on Earth would someone want a developer to think this is the better choice? It is, of course, fine for someone to prefer a quick and dirty release. In the end though if a small delay causes you to give up on the game there is no way that person could reasonably defined as a fan of the series. I get the argument for it being so long since the last game released, but that is not what anyone here is really bitching about.

GT5 isn't "A couple weeks late".

It's extremely late based on what people could reasonable expect.  This new delay could just be the "straw that broke the camels back."  

Hell you see this shit all the time, people like some anime for example, but don't like the huge pauses and the most recent story, and then they change one of the character's hair... and a bunch of people get angry and leave.  It's not REALLY about the hair changing, it's about all the crap before that.

Also, I like your premise that "It's ok they've taken so long... becuase they're more popular."

What makes you think GT5 couldn't been released a long time ago without bugs?

The big time sync was car modeling.  That was specifically the reason given for why it wasn't released years ago.... well a long time ago.