Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
Oh, and I'm not saying any of this isn't horrible. It's just expected and should be realized is going to happen whenever these kinds of things are done in the first place.
It's like people who complain about innocnet's dieing during war. Collateral damage isn't a rarity it's common place. Even the smartest bomb isn't going to blow everything up but innocents. Even the best trained group of soldiers are going to torture, kill and rape.
I mean hell, does anyone actually think various US soldeirs didn't rape, murder or torture people? No doubt in my mind it happened... at best we could hope they were discharged but under different pretexts... at worse they may of just been left in their units. That's going to happen with any military in any country in the world... and you are going to try and cover it up, because all it does otherwise is give the other side more reason to fight.
Like I said, it's why these situations aren't worth it.
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The best trained soldiers aren't going to torture, kill and rape. As far as this war goes, the US soldiers that did that sort of stuff (Abu Ghraib and things) were mostly the least well trained and usually there is a breakdown in the chain of command.
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Or was it that the best trained soldiers were just smart enough to not take pictures.
This will even happen with the best trained soldiers. Not in a huge abu graib insident nessessairly.... but you put people in a situation where they are being bombed and attacked on a daily basis, never completely at ease... and you put them in charge of the husbands, wives, children and even their co-conspirators... and you don't think even some of the best trained soldiers snap?
The stresses of war can even make the best trained well intentioned people do terrible things they regret for the rest of their lives.
Man, i'm very pessimistic today. Probably too much reading about the ins and outs of what various republican and democratic politicians are doing for the elections.
You know your in trouble when the Democrats are making unfounded xenophobic attacks.
