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Kasz216 on 22 October 2010
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ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:

He eventually was charged with hersay because he had not proof.   You could only be charged with hersay if you had none.   If you had actual scientific proof there was nothing the church could do to you.

The Church charged Galileo for heresy because he supported the Heliocentric Model.  Thats the facts, thats history.  The above quote was the Church statement, and you are literally trying to reverse what the Church said on the matter.

The only 'historians' supporting your warped view are Catholic groups themselves.  Like you, they are seeking ingornance against the fact that the Church charged Galileo with believing the heliocentric model, and that the church banned all writings of concerning the heliocentric model (including Copernicus' who knew better than to publish his papers before he was on his deathbed).  This was the time of the Inqusition, yet you and other revisionists want to paint Christians as tolerant, secular, progress loving Catholics who only condemned Galileo and others like him for not having enough proof.

I won't continue this discussion with you any further.  If a man truly believes in fairies and unicorns, how can you convince him otherwise?

.... so you didn't read the Wikipedia or haven't read anything about the actual trials of Galieo... by pretty much any historian or astronomer.

Your attempts to try and save face are just making you look sad.  Staring at mountains and mountains of evidence you close your eyes and repeat something you want to be true... It's really seems quite ironic.

You don't even seem to know anything about what Galieo's theories were or what the book was about. 

By the way... you do know that Copernicus' books were not only allowedby the Catholic Church but also circulated by them up until a scientific council found them lacking vs the Tycho model... in fact this was due to action by Galieo.  It took six decades for ANYBODY to bother to put Copernicus theories on the "black" list.   After a meeting with Galieo and the church on said matters... and after a "better" model empiracly replaced it.  (The Brache model)  There were plenty of copernican scholars between then and Galeio.

Heck, the church changed the calender... based on Copernicus' math.

Ask ANY Astronomer who had the most accurate calculations at the time... and they will tell you.   Tycho Brahe.

I had more respect for you back when you just stopped posting in threads where the evidence overwhelmed you.