superchunk said:
ProdigyBam said:
"The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (Quran (4:11))
"and the men are a degree above them [women]" (Quran 2:228)
please just close your mouth, if you dont have any clue what your are talking about
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I think you are the one who needs to research a little more before you speak. The Qur'an says many times that it is not meant to be a hardship on life, but a guide on how to live. This means Muslims can choose to deviate on areas that would make things harder vs happier. The two items you bring up I will discuss below and keep in mind that they can be handled in any other way based on your specific household dynamics.
RE: "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (Quran (4:11))
This is in relation to inheritance, not inferiority. In Islam each party has a primary role to play. Man's role is to be the households religious leader as well as financial support. This does not mean a woman cannot do these roles, its just not expected of her. With this role in mind, it makes far more logical sense that the men in the family receive more of their parents inheritance than the women as the men have far more financial responsibility. However, the Qur'an also enforces a woman's right to own property and a business (first in the world historically to do so), so it must be accepted that woman are equal to men in financial desires and needs from the viewpoint of the Qur'an. Any laws you see in the real world that do not uphold that equality are strictly against the Qur'an and are probably due to that groups local ideology, not Islam.
RE: "and the men are a degree above them [women]" (Quran 2:228)
This is in relation to religious leadership, not being inferior or below each other. Just as a Priest is above common man in religious leadership in the Church, men, specifically the fathers, are a degree above women in the home. Again, this always brought down to your family's specific dynamics. This is also the reason men are the Imams in Islam as their role is to be the religious leader/teacher. But, this is no different than any religion. Name one female pope or prophet. For right or wrong, men have always been the leaders of religious teaching. It has nothing to do with who is inferior or beneath the other as that does not exist.
In general what you and way too many other people (especially Muslims themselves) did here is take small segments of the Qur'an and bend it WAY out of proportion to fit your desired outcome. This mentality is why Al Queda exists and why the Muslim world is so back-ass-wards. If people followed the Qur'ans advice and individually read it with an understanding that it is to be considered one whole document vs small individual rules, these issues would not be presented.
This is why as a Muslim, my wife doesn't wear any head covering nor do the women or men in my family feel anything but equal in all things and before all other people. I actually read the Qur'an and realized it says all books of God should be taken as guides to proper human life. That God wants you to use your great abilities in cognitive thinking to not just accept someone else's teachings, but to think for yourself. Islam is a religion of peace and equality first, its just too bad too many others have stolen its teachings for small personal gain.
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