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DukeOfLuxembourg said:
sapphi_snake said:
in both Islam and Chrisitanity women are considered to be "equal" to men

good try but that's absolutly not true: following the qu'ran, a women isn't equal to a men

sapphi_snake said:
One of the biggest problems in Western nations is forcing people to become Christian

no western nations is forcing people to become christian but all day we see muslims all over the world forcing people from other believs to convert to islam or they get killed (beheaded, burned alive, stoned etc) as they get ordered to do so from theyr 'holy' book the qu'ran.

sapphi_snake said:
she's a right wind religious nut

you are wrong again: she is considered as far left minded by her political party & a lot of people in germany.

sapphi_snake said:
Forcing someone to subscribe to the values of a certain religion is no different than forcing them to convert to said religion. Religion is something personal, so individuals can choose to follow the values of a certain religion, however society at large musn't adhere to the moral teachings of any religion, if religious freedom is something that society strives for of course.

sure it's different. it isn't not different because you don't see or know the difference. read some replies of this thread so you will see & probably understand were the difference is. the western countries adhere to religious freedom, the same thing can't be said about muslims as they see themself as believers of the one & only true religion. everybody else has to be converted to it or killed.

sapphi_snake said:
Here comments are insulting to all non-Christians in Germany, and from what I know Germany isn't a very religious country, so I doubt many Germans appreciate the "we feel tied to Christian values" part of her speach.

since thilo sarrazin wrote a book about how the situation in germany is degenerating, a lot of polls have been made & guess what the results were: mostly well over 75% (sometimes even over 90%) the population in germany see themself as a christian nation & are tired of the behaviours of the non-integrated immegrants. it's a fact germany has a big problem with immigrants from muslim nations. on the other hand immigrants from non-muslim countries aren't creating such problems. but germany isn't alone in europe with that because the same problem is also very present in the UK, france, belgium, sweden, austria, switzerland, spain.

sapphi_snake said:
Read some books on the subject and see who's living in his own reality.

if the only book you readed is the qu'ran, i understand why you seem to be the one in an own reality.

sapphi_snake said:
Truth be told, it's pretty hard for multiculturalism to work. For example immigrants coming from a country where the culture is sexist will probably have a hard time making their traditional culture survive in their new home country where equality between sexes is the norm.

multiculturalism can work, as i already partly mentioned before there are no big problems with immigrants from non-muslim counties.

sapphi_snake said:
The Christian and Jewish influences areat best minimal today (despite what many people think).

true, but only in non christian or jewish countries

sapphi_snake said:
Well, Merkel is German. Hitler seemed more appropriate than Stalin.

do i really need to write something on that bs?

sapphi_snake said:
Western morality developed in a certain way, and that's a fact

at least the western morality has evolved during the last 2000 years, the muslim doesn't.

so in other words...its all the fault of Muslims.Ironic how you rant about how extremist Muslims are,and yet your an extremist Christian yourself.



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