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darthdevidem01 said:
steverhcp02 said:
atma998 said:
darthdevidem01 said:

This generation we have seen the following:

DMC4 outsold DMC3 (multiplat but I believe the PS3 version alone would have too had it been exclusive)

MGS4 outsold MGS3 

GOW3 outsold GOW2

FF13 outsold FF12 (multiplat but the PS3 version alone did 4.3 Million and by the time it ends selling will be at 5 Million....so had it been exclusive the PS3 version alone would have done more)

The only exception is GTA4....

Otherwise we can see that the new iteration of a franchise outsells the last in the previous gen

However as GTA4 is the only exception I'll treat it as an anomaly, this is why I expect GT5 to outsell GT4 at the least! But if it doesn't it will still not be the lowest selling GT!!

Not really the only exception...

Most of Madden and FIFA games sold better on PS2.

Prince of Persia and Tom Clancy's franchises also sold better on PS2.

Guitar Hero and Tony Hawk's franchises sold better on PS2.

Star Wars games sold better on PS2.

WWE games sold better on PS2.

And... another huge racing game's franchise in the name of Need for Speed also sold way better on PS2.

And keep in mind that a lot of PS2 games aren't very weel tracked here.

In the end I think GT5 won't top 7-8 million LTD.

p.s. GoW III didnt outsold GoW II yet, it is currently at 3.03M, while GoW II is at 3.45M and GoW is at 3.74M. But I agree it will outsell it eventually. :)

All of those games have yearly iterations and while your point is noted, last gen what youre doing is essentially comparing the entire industries 3rd party sales on the best console (see: ONLY console) vs this gens split 3rd party sales on its weakest console, rendering that point invalid, imo.

Exactly why I didn't even bother responding to him.

the games I said are much closer to GT5 in terms of "behaviour" than "yearly iterations".

I simply added some other games to your awful list of only 3 and a half games that lead you to the conclusion that a ''new iteration of a franchise outsells the last in the previous gen''. 

If you want to take example of games that are more closer to GT5 in terms of behavior, why didnt you take any Need for Speed games in your theory instead of MGS, DMC or FF?

Now userbase is not everything for sure but it helps a lot to sell games. Just take a quick look at PS2 vs. PS3, XB vs. XB360 and GC vs. Wii games to see what I'm talking about. However, it's not because your userbase is 2 times bigger than it will sells 2 times more games, but something for sure it won't sell less than before and the other way around...