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welshbloke said:

Somebody mentioned a lack of advertising as a clue which it may of been but Kinect was due to be released same week yet I have seen nothing advertised outside of a retailers website but I am presuming it is still on track.

Also confirmed for December but was it not confirmed for November. It has always surprised me how chill-axed the GT fan is about these delays but you have to be spitting feathers now. At this rate they will be releasing GT5 alongside FM4.

Kinect doesn't need to advertise yet - short on supply.