Dinosaurs co-existed with man.

[Farmageddon]

pizzahut451 said:

Farmageddon said:

You've already got a couple of great answers, but I'll try yet another approach.

I'll supposed everything you say is right.

You start off saying that pshysics and nature only came to be with the big bang.  Then you start talking about "before the big bang". But time is a part of nature and physics. So if time only came to be with the big bang, talking about "before the big bang" equates to talking about "before time". Which makes as much sense as talking about "outside of space".

There's no before without time and there's no outside without space because by definition there's no time if there's no time and there's no space if there's no space.

You then apply the laws of science to before the big bang. But wait, didn't you just say nature and physics itself didn't exist before the big bang? So how come you're applying them to that environment?

Your argument has no internal logic.

And it goes on, you say:

"And as far as i know, no such matter is possible. However an abrahamic God has ALL of the above atrubutes."

Other Gods and explanations have already been mentioned, but have you ever heard about the concept of the God of the Gaps? That's what you're doing. "I don't know how that could work, so that must have been God".

 

Before Big Bang there was only God, and he is timeless and spaceless,and he can exist out of time and space and so no time or space was needed for him to create the Big Bang.  So i can easly  say before time. Simple. There. You see how i disporeved your ''I wanna confuse you'' post with one sentence???

There's no "I wanna confuse you". Your argument has no internal logic. In a sense, you are already confused :P

"Before the Big Bang", according to you, means "before time". But what is that? How can there be "before time"? How do you define causation without time?

Besides, what about the part where you use newtons law "before the Big Bang" even though you said there was no nature or physics "then"? Does that make sense, am I just trying to confuse you?

If everything is so different and unkown, how can you determine what still stands and what doesn't. Can we really expect to be able to apply logic to your scenario?

Also, don't you see how postulating your God as the answer is a big, unfunded leap? I could say:

Before Big Bang there was only the primal matter for the big bang, and it is timeless and spaceless,and it can exist out of time and space and so no time or space was needed for it to become the Big Bang.

How is your take on it any more right?

You just arrive at a situation you can't explain and call God in. How is that any different from Thor and so on?