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SilentWolf on 31 December 2007
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naznatips said:
SilentWolf said:
naznatips said:
I hate the idea of anyone giving it to CoD4. Bioshock I can tolerate, although it's given more credit for originality than it really deserves (As anyone who owns both it and System Shock 2 can tell you). CoD4 though plays EXACTLY like CoD2, but with better online multiplayer, and a really short campaign. I think they had a lot of opportunities to evolve the CoD franchise with CoD4 and didn't take any of them...

My #1 choice for GOTY if it's not SMG is Orange Box without contest. Again, I don't mind Bioshock getting it either.

I don't know naznatips, it really is just a preference thing. If I go by your post history, then you seem to like a fleshed-out singleplayer game over a fleshed-out multiplayer game, so of course you are going to prefer Biochock over CoD4.

Non of the CoD games were a very good source of a single-player game for me. They excel at multiplayer, and that is what most fans seem to have come to expect out of them.

Just so you know, for my goty, I would have to give a tie to SMG and CoD4. I liked Bioshock and the Orange Box, but the other two were more fun for me.

I do have to ask though, when you say that CoD4 plays exactly like CoD2, do you mean in terms of controls or in gameplay experiences?

Edit: Correction, my goty is a tie between the pc CoD4 and SMG.

Edit 2: And please explain your answer, thanks.


I meant in controls. Sorry if that wasn't clear. I would have liked to see a cover system added, as it's great in squad based shooters. Because of that, I actually was more impressed with R6:V from a controls perspective. As far as the actual experience goes, yeah it was epic and full of big cool explosions, but I am tired fo being fucking ordered around. Let me take command of the squad.

Also, how about a little less linearity and some less retarded AI? They were like sheep going in a straight line waiting to get killed. Yet, when it came to tossing a grenade, apparently they were all Tom Brady and Peyton Manning clones cause they dropped them between my feet from 100 yards out, and the stupid grenade indicator doesn't stand out enough for me to get out of the way on time.


Hmm..  Well for the first paragraph, it sounds like you simply want more control and more options.  However, I wouldn't really call CoD a squad based shooter.  Although you do often find yourself in groups, you're really a one-man army for the most part.  I do agree that perhaps it could be more fun if they added a few modes where you could take command of a squad.  Although I will say that the simplicity of the controls in modes such as Death Match make the game more fun for me, and adding more options would only help to complicate the game and take away the fun of straightforward shooting.  And personally, I am more accustomed to playing against hackers in the original CoD, where advanced/more controls tend to be beat out by a fast trigger finger.

For the second paragraph, I have no rebuttal for the your dislike of the linearity of the game.  I can't think of any downsides to having more choices on how to finish it.  You could choose to go straight through and hope that you are faster and more accurate than the enemy, or you could go around the enemy and finish with stealth. If that is what you are talking about, then I agree with you.  

I don't know so much about the AI.  They seem to not be totally stupid, and will take some cover, and can sometimes out smart you.  I think that when making most games a developer has to make a choice; do you make hundreds of enemies who are dumb as a rock(or worse), or do you make a few enemies and make them better than the player(or somewhere in the middle).  I think Infinity Ward chose a mix that was slanted more towards the large dumb army.  I guess that I would prefer to of had smaller, smarter numbers, but this mix was good enough for me.  

I agree with you about the accuracy of the enemies when throwing the grenades, and that did frustrate me a times, but the sound of the grenades and the icon were enough for me to normally avoid an explosive death.