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A203D on 06 October 2010
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naznatips said:
tonio_13 said:

Again you're speculating way too much, you're not even bringing sources to prove your point.

See page 3 http://www.square-enix.com/eng/pdf/news/20100518_02.pdf

Since 2004 they profited millions of dollars every year.


Fine, they dropped, they didn't lose, but in 2009 they posted the lowest profits in the entire existence of the company (since the merger in which they became Square Enix). I was speaking of fiscal quarters, rather than years, in which they did post some losses. Obviously not enough to offset profits entirely, but it's an issue that it happens. To further analyze that chart, their previous record was in FY07, which is the fiscal year in which they released FFXII (yes I know it came out in 2006, but it was FY07). FY05, the record before that, is when they released DQVIII. So yes, you post bigger profits on years you launch big games. Also the sun rises in the east.

Let's look at that though. Both of those years, had nearly the same profit as this last fiscal year. One year they had an FF game, and one year they had a DQ game, but this year they released Dragon Quest, Arkham Asylum, and FFXIII. In one fiscal year, and they still barely beat the record they had set with FFXII alone. So yes, that's a problem. It's a problem of diminishing returns. You're also talking about a company that is now 3 times the size it was in the PS2 generation, and yet posting the same or lower profits! There is no way Square Enix is happy with their current business model and profits.

whether or not this is the case naznatips, i think Wada can be trusted as CEO, he is a buisness man, and to be fair the problems your talking about stem from FF13's prolonged development cycle, which wasnt his fault. the problem seems to be that other than FF theres nothing with the same international appeal; and Wada is doing something about that by integrating the foreign studios like Eidos, and Luminous seems like a good move because it has not taken as much time as Crystal Tools, and uses exisiting engines.

oh and about you Versus comment, i i agree, imo it will not sell more than 4.5 mil. and tonio_13, i didnt look at the link, but surely millions of turnover is not enough for a company that employees hundreds of people, with offices in the 3 key gaming teritories, i would expect a least $100 million yearly. and this fiscal year we've had DQ9, FF13 & Batman, AA.