Federal minimum wage is unconstitutional

[dunno001]

mrstickball said:

It'd be an incredible world if the government didn't take 30% of everyones income. Imagine the living standards of the poor and middle class that had far less taxation.

Ultimately, major spending such as the mentioned (health care, pensions, ect) should be dealt with from a state or personal level. Many of the programs the government has that were listed (Medicaid/care, social security, ect) are utter failures, which cost much more than equivilent private programs.

1st paragraph: Actually, they don't. The median income for a household in the US is just under $50,000. Per the 2010 tax tables, a married couple doesn't pay more than 15% on any money earned until passing $75,750, and won't hit over 30% until passing $217,000. So they're not getting 30% of their money back, which leads to...

2nd paragraph: So, in exchange for giving them 15% back (well, less, taxes on $50,000 is $4900, less than 10%), they're expected to cover all the costs for the things they are getting from the government? If the states pick up the tab, state taxes are going to go up, making this moot. But if they have to pay for all those services themselves, can they get them all for $4900/year? No, thus putting them in a worse position than they were in before this "tax cut." Sure, there are inefficiencies in the system. But just throwing the whole system out isn't going to fix it. They need to step back and look where money can be trimmed- that's the course of action that is needed, not just cutting taxes to cut out all the services.

General topic: Getting rid of the minimum wage would be stupid; as things stand, people can't afford to have a place to live in some areas of the US on the current minimum. Paying people even less would just make them even more dependant on the government for assistance, and isn't what people want to do, is get people off needing the government's help for everything? If that $7.25/hr job ($15,080 per year, at 40 hours/week and 52 weeks/year- or less than the poverty line for a family of 3.) suddenly drops to paying $5/hr, where does that extra money go? Not to the people who need it; it stays in the pockets of the rich owners, helping to further the divide between rich and poor. Nay, I would propose slowly raising the minimum wage toward $10/hr, letting people earn a livable wage. Not a good life with fanciness, but to work toward getting a home and supporting a family.