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raptors11 said:
 

Well as for your point about inheritance/welfare I think you make a very interesting argument. In both cases people are getting money they don't "deserve" or in other words hasn't worked to get. I do think the one major difference is, however, that inheritance is money that your parents worked their entire lives to get and had enough left over to pass down to their children. Welfare on the other hand is money that is being taken from you and given to a complete stranger possibly in a different part of the country. I have no problem with inheritance because its money your family worked hard to get and you have the right to pass it down to your children; but welfare on the other hand is a great thing but too often its abused by lazy people who aren't even trying to find jobs.

And as for your question about should a lazy person with no motivation to work be "left to die" or in less dramatic terms "be left to fend for themselves" then I think yes. Now before you call me a jackass I'm only saying someone with no desire what-so-ever to work or find a job should be left on their own. As long as a person is making an honest effort to find meaningful work (or even volunteering) then they should be helped by the government. I just don't want to see my hard earned tax dollars going to a guy who doesn't work and is making no effort to find a job.

Now a person like yourself who is off work with an injury and is looking for other work, is entitled to some assistance I think.

I have a Masters degree in Information Systems, a BS degree in Management, and years of experience.  My verbal comprehension and communication IQ tested around 140 (near top 1%).  The only work I shouldn't be able to do now is manual labor with heavy lifting (lost a part-time janitor spot due to the condition), which begs why I would fit into that with my background.  I should be suitable to do mental work where I can work on my back.  The irony is that my effectiveness now to find employment is on par with when I was looking much heavier because I could do anything.  The gotcha here is the principle of private property and giving being voluntary.  Either it should be and the chips fall where they may, or government steps in.

In all this, I am still trying to work here. I get no compensation except family handouts and from church.  So, I am trying to get something going.  Looking into helping others find work, or at least meaningful volunteer work that then could lead to employment (see the GodIsHiring link below to the facebook group).

On a related not here, the word "slothfulness", which is connected to laziness, has a connection to depression.  It involves an abandonment of hope.  I would say the bulk of lazy people have generally been robed of hope and have no basis for motivation to do anything (motive or reason to do is at the heart of motivation).  Circumstances in life can totally rob someone of reasons to be and do.  I have seen this battling things myself, where repeatedly not getting anywhere can cause one to even give up the will to live.