Barozi said:
jneul said:
bannedagain said:
jneul said:
we will only know when revelations comes true 
OT: different people have different beliefs, I myself believe the universe too complicated to be created by accident (i.e big bang), just think about what it would take to create the perfect solar system for earth and it just happened to be habitable, funny if it happened by accident, because that would be lucky 
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So since you don't understand it,it has to be god? or a creater. Normal attitude for humans. The sun gives us life, I don't know what it is there for, it must be the sun god. Thousands of religions came from not knowing why things happend and then disproved later due to science and logic. Then we just went and made up a new one. remember you can't control people if you don't have some sort of fear installed in them. I'm not saying I don't believe in a after life but a creater, come on. after all information and energy never disappears, it just changes. so has always been and always well be, so in that maybe you can call energy god.
By the way they do have a theory of everything coming together. Quantum Physics and a new thoery of a multiverse are coming together to form the idea. In easy terms, they think that two multi verses collided and this is what caused the bang also the creation of hydrogen. We have some great science and supporting facts all the way from Milliseconds after the big bang until present day.
your thoery on creating the perfect living conditions, they just found another planet that is in that comfort zone(Gliese 581g). It's only 20 light yrs away. this is very close to us in space time. Are galaxy alone is 100,000 light years accross. The problem is that it is very hard to find planets like this in the glare of there star. If we found something only 20 light years away from us, this leaves us to beilieve that this is not uncommon and there most likely is many earth like planets orbiting stars. On top of that there are over 400,000,000,000 stars in our galaxy and we are only one of billions of galaxies, which all of those galaxies have billions of stars as well. it's shear numbers.
http://news.discovery.com/space/earth-like-planet-life.html
Science is cool and giving in and saying, oh thats to hard is just not a answer. Look it up, watch the science channel. there is a lot of info to learn.
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It's just a matter of opinion, i'm not here to impose my view on other people, and accuse me of not understanding all you want i do understand it, but think differently and respect your views, anyways thanks for the link
also i don't believe in the religious views of controlling people, that is a bad way to do things, which is why i don;t do church, just believe in god and jesus, i am allowed to have my own view right??
finally like other people have pointed out my views are subjective as to what i was taught as a kid by my mum, so it's kind of hard to change my view as much as it's hard for you all to beleive in god, sorry thats the last thing i will say
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You said 2 totally different things in your first post.
1. the universe is too complicated to be created by accident
2. It's unlikely that the perfect solar system for earth (or any other habitable planet) happened by accident
You can surely have your own view about the first point, but the second point, which many of us are referring to is pretty much false.
It's VERY likely that somewhere in the universe is a 2nd habitable planet. We've only found 500 planets so far (out of several quintillions or more)
I wouldn't even be surprised if there exist several exact copies of our solar system. Just not anywhere near ours.
Furthermore what do you understand by "perfect" solar system ? Because we can live in such a system ?
Again, you're living in such a system, so it is required to exist no matter how.
A good example would be, why are you you and not someone else ? Simply because it's a requirement that you are you, no matter if you're an American lady or an Asian man.
All of us could also live on one of those other solar system which I assume they probably exist. How would you call the planet you're living on ? Earth ! Even though it wouldn't be the same planet we're currently living on.
Would you question if there are other planets just like yours ? Yes ! Would others think that god created that specific planet for humans even though it's not the same planet we're living on ? Yes !
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sorry by the perfect solar system I meant ours was at first, it's amazing how it supports so many different lifeforms, all with different requirements, surely that could be no accident....
yeah they say that planet is habitable whether or not that transforms to being 100% stable for human life is another matter, even that much I heard on the news, they are having to investigate it properly.
as for me, well it happened to be chance of course we all know about reproduction, it all depends on the combination of your mother's egg and the fathers sperm, but if you think about it the chances of having someone exactly like yourself in every way are very narrow, it's said that each person has their own unique finger print
also there is a possibility that god did not just create earth as the only habitable planet just for us all, there are changes he decided to make other planets that are habitable, you just never know, thing is I don't have all the answers, I'm only human
anyway like I said it's just my view.
