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NJ5 said:
r505Matt said:

How can he just completely dismiss that and say there just aren't as many Zerg players? I know it's mostly just a lot of whining, but there are TONS of new threads everyday on peoples' problems with the Zerg race. Personally, I feel that if a race requires more APM just to be on an even level with other races, something is wrong, and they should address that first, but whatever. I'm not expecting perfect balance even remotely soon, but when many of the players agree that there's something wrong with zerg, even if no one agrees as to what that something is, I think it's pretty careless to just casually dismiss it. Even the usual BS statement of "We're always looking into it but our data suggests otherwise" would have been better.


I though the higher APM was a lot due to the fact that Zerg simply makes more units. But I never play with Zerg, so...

The way most of us use spawn larva is we put a queen and a hatchey on numbers 5-9 or 6-0 (I personally use 6-0). So to use spawn larva, I hit 66v and click the center. Each spawn larva use is 4 actions, and I do it in about 1 second. I don't remember the exact cooldown (30ish seconds?) and so essentially twice per minute per hatch.

I also have to check to make sure I catch it right on time, so even during a micro heavy fight, I'm changing back and forth between my hatchs and the fighting control groups. If larva were autocast, it would be a LOT more fun to play zerg, but it usually feels like a chore to spawn larva.

Zerg's higher APM requirement comes specifically from spawn larva and from needing heavy micro during fights. I play random, so when I roll Terran, I can just attack move a base and go pay attention to something else (expos). It's pathetic. Zerg, you have to run past so you can surround (with lings of course), or you have to set a very very specific path for your mutas, or if there's a thor, you have to specifically magic box and stop right over the thor if you plan to take it out with ur mutas.