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The Fury on 30 September 2010
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Joelcool7 said:
Umos-Cmos said:

Were you implying that Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons aren't christian?  Just needed some clarification.

Christian means that you believe the Bible is the absolute word of God, both Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons have seperate Holy Books. Mormon's believe their book supercedes the Bible and Jehovahs have various non-Biblical views in their texts.

This is what I mean, today any cult or belief can say they believe Jesus existed and suddenly they are Christian. The Bible is fundamental to the Christian faith. You cannot believe the Bible to be anything but the 100% word of God while calling yourself a Christian.

I've had tons of theological debates with Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses, they are seperate faiths altogether. Muslims believe in Jesus does that make Islamic believers Christians?

Everyone these days calls themselves Christians. When I was in school their was a whole group who called themselves Christians. However they didn't know anything about Jesus or the Bible, infact most told me they never even picked up a Bible. While others said they were Christian because they were born to two Christians. People these days think their Christian just because their parents were. Christianity is not a race, its not only a belief that Jesus existed. Its the following and belief that the Bible is the word of God and that Christ Jesus died on the cross to free us from our sinful natures.

Again I have to say Sikh's also believe Jesus existed, are they Christian now too? How about Jews many believe that Jesus existed, are they Christian? Why don't we just grab everyone who believes Jesus existed and lump them all into one catagory.

Heck everyones Christian these days, out of those people questioned how many of them are actually serious about their beliefs. How many are legit followers of Christ?

To believe in Christ as the son of God is to be Christian not just the Bible. Mormons are Christians, just they have an extra book which they believe is the also the word of God but they still believe in Christ as the son of God and follow the teachings of the Bible.

Sikhism, Islam and many other religions believe that Jesus existed but they do not class him as the son of God (or God himself). They mainly believe in him as a prophet.

But like you say many class themselves as Christian because their parents did. This I agree with you on but even if they believe that Jesus was the son of God and have faith in him, whether or not they read the Bible, then who are you to deny them their religion? 



Hmm, pie.