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Final-Fan said:
Kasz216 said:
Final-Fan said:
Kasz216 said:
Final-Fan said:
Kasz216 said:
You said he was offered 2,000 dollar from some white guy who was deported right?  He'd stand to make at most that.

How do we know he didn't fork over the money?  If he did we would of heard about it.  Would be fairly easy to tell if he had the money.

Wrong and wrong. 

He said the white guy offered some conspirator $2000 to produce incriminating evidence, which he refused, but later told our hero he would part with it for (IIRC) "five times that amount". 

And no, why would we know if McRae forked over the cash?  AFAIK, we would only have definitely been told if he produced positive results, or gave McRae a forgery that he failed to detect before going to the press.  That neither happened does NOT prove that McRae didn't pay this guy.  Why would McRae tell us about a failed attempt, especially an embarrassing one, that didn't really prove anything?  [edit:  As for knowing by virtue of whether Brother Tom in fact came into that amount of money, I seriously doubt such investigation has been conducted, much less made public.] 

Why wouldn't there have been any investigation into it?  Seems like prime pickings for a journalist.  Espeically on a slow news day?

If you were conned with a forgery... you wouldn't want your money back?

Well, then you should be able to find out easily enough if that's the case. 

Sure you'd want your money back, whether the "you" is McRae or whatever other people that were involved in this project and possibly bankrolling it.  But maybe you'd want even more to avoid public embarrassment, or the risk of discrediting the Kenyan Birth hypothesis.  To some people letting ten or twenty grand go uncontested would be a small price to pay for avoiding public humiliation, let alone the sinking of a beloved political position.  And be honest, how likely would they really be to get their money back?  Not very (to put it mildly) is my guess. 

If I was a reporter and could pay for my own expenses that way sure.
I'm not though, and I don't care enough to spend my own money.
There GDP per capita is like... $300.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_gro_nat_inc_percap-gross-national-income-per-capita
The files being fake wouldn't discredit anything.  Just because something is fake doesn't mean the real stuff doesn't exist. 

What I MEANT was, if it was such an attractive thing to do for reporters surely you should be able to dig up a reporter who had done that in this case. 

And I know that evidence getting faked doesn't mean the thing it supposedly proved is false.  But are you seriously going to tell me that the Kenyan Birth hypothesis wouldn't lose respect if he came out complaining of getting duped like that?  Are you going to LIE to me? 

And be honest, how likely would they really be to get their money back?  Not very (to put it mildly) is my guess.


Unless they looked into it and it turned out there never was any money paid.

Then you don't have a story.  It's like if you look into if Joe Biden's wife was really killed by a drunk driver.  She wasn't, it was easy to check, and the story got told because he wasn't drunk.  Now if he HAD been drunk... there is no story.

Why would they lose respect?  I mean, would YOU be able to tell a Kenyian birth certificate from a fake one?  Probably not unless it was badly forged.  The only way they'd lose respect would be if they took the documents to the public as the real deal before having them confirmed by an outside source or had experts looking at them.

Purely aquiring the documents wouldn't lead to any degredation of their point at all.

As for how likely they'd be to get there money back, can't say I'm not an expert on Kenyian law.