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Qays said:
jarrod said:
Qays said:

" If 3rd parties had simply treated Wii like they treated PS2, they'd be looking at a Wii software market like PS2's for core games today."

I'm really not sure I buy this. The Wii has primitive graphics, primitive online, and requires you buy an actual controller separately. I'm not sure how much of the core market it could conceivably have captured with those kinds of handicaps.

PS2 had primitive graphics, primitive online and (like it or not) the Wii remote plus nunchuk is an "actual controller", and is honestly capable of handling most modern genres fine.  All the indications were there early on for a strong core market, especially with games like Red Steel and RE4 far surpassing sales expectations.

Basically, 3rd parties shat the bed with shovelware and spinoffs, and now they're stuck with a super casual mainstream Wii marketplace that they've basically poisoned themselves with, a base that really only trusts Nintendo's brand.

You're seriously comparing the graphics differential between the PS2 and original Xbox to that between the Wii and the HD twins? Seriously? Come on. Online wasn't a prerequisite for the core gamer last generation like it is now.

And it doesn't matter if Wiimote nunchuk is "honestly capable of handling most genres fine". Core gamers don't like it. That is what we're talking about, isn't it? The reason why the Wii has failed to win over the core?

OMG THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the wii in comparison to the HD twins is very very inferior a product, the ps2 was only slightly inferior to the xbox. and you can't compare the 2 because the ps2 was last gen and that there is why it gets no support, it's NOT 3rd party developers fault the wii is nothing more than a re-skinned gamecube with motion controls. and no one in the "up market" will EVER choose a wii version of any mutiplat game, because the wii version will be inferior by default and that's just a fact. The only other option by 3rd parties is to make games exclusively for the wii and completely ignore the HD twins to which I respond THIS IS NEXT GEN, which is now current gen, and no developer is going to waste time making games on the last gen hardware by comparison, no matter how much it sells.

the sooner wii fans can accept this, the better off you will all be. Because if the wii could provide an experience to HD consoles, akin to what the ps2 could do compared to it's competitors the 3rd party support you guys want, would be there.