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jarrod said:
Qays said:

" If 3rd parties had simply treated Wii like they treated PS2, they'd be looking at a Wii software market like PS2's for core games today."

I'm really not sure I buy this. The Wii has primitive graphics, primitive online, and requires you buy an actual controller separately. I'm not sure how much of the core market it could conceivably have captured with those kinds of handicaps.

PS2 had primitive graphics, primitive online and (like it or not) the Wii remote plus nunchuk is an "actual controller", and is honestly capable of handling most modern genres fine.  All the indications were there early on for a strong core market, especially with games like Red Steel and RE4 far surpassing sales expectations.

Basically, 3rd parties shat the bed with shovelware and spinoffs, and now they're stuck with a super casual mainstream Wii marketplace that they've basically poisoned themselves with, a base that really only trusts Nintendo's brand.

You're seriously comparing the graphics differential between the PS2 and original Xbox to that between the Wii and the HD twins? Seriously? Come on. Online wasn't a prerequisite for the core gamer last generation like it is now.

And it doesn't matter if Wiimote nunchuk is "honestly capable of handling most genres fine". Core gamers don't like it. That is what we're talking about, isn't it? The reason why the Wii has failed to win over the core?