By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
Final-Fan said:
Kasz216 said:
Final-Fan said:
Kasz216 said:
A. I do think so... keep in mind this whole thing started because Obama's Kenyan aunt stated she was there when he was born... and then only later recanted.  (Possibly after being told what a silly law the US has when it comes to electing presidents?)  It's not like the swiftboats where the original source was some anti-kerry groups.  This whole thing started due to a family relative saying she was there then changing her story. (Because she wasn't in the US at that time.)

A.  evidence plz.  I spent a few minutes on Google and only found some nutjob making that claim about the grandmother in the same breath as he called the birth certificate  (yes yes short form) a forgery: 
"But Philip J. Berg, a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania, told the Michael Savage talk radio program tonight that the document is forged and that he has a tape recording he will soon release.
"This has been a real sham he's pulled off for the last 20 months," Berg told Savage. "I'll release it [the tape] in a day or two, affidavits from her talking to a certain person. I heard the tape. She was speaking [to someone] here in the United States."
"He said the telephone call was from Obama's paternal grandmother affirming she "was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961."

If this tape exists, you should be able to show it to me no problem right?  And convince so many people?  The burden is obviously on you

A)  http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2008/12/05/birth_certificate
Though they do explain it away trying to say it's a mistranslation... saying yes to "I was present where he was born" certaintly doesn't sound  like anything you could mistranslate.  She might of been confused.  Afterall she'd have to be pretty old... however either being confused or accidently letting the truth come out and having to be corrected are both way more likely.

Guess it was after this whole thing started though.  Anyone who believed it before then... i'm sketchy on.  Still.  Proof is important.

Oh yeah, one thing I didn't think of until now ... one of the two translators was an agent for the birther people.  If what she said was an admission that they only covered up by claiming a translation error, wouldn't he have raised a red flag?  I mean, is it reasonable to think someone on McRae's payroll to dig up dirt on the birth in Kenya would have assisted in covering up an admission to McRae in his presence about that same birth? 


There was only 1 translator...?