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steverhcp02 said:

I suspect Kinect integration to become the standard with occasional Kinect only games over time. So maybe a FPS with  actually throwing a grenade or something.

I think MSFT needs to backpeddle on their "no controller" standpoint and just embrace Kinect as a companion piece to help immerse th euser. It would help in the long run once th enovelty wears off, imo. So hopefully the reason we arent seeing core western games announced is because they want to keep the hype on Kinect being strctly no controller to differentiate through the holiday, then GDC as a companion.

I agree and disagree with you at the same time.

I'll be more specific: I think MS is specifically going after the "no controller" games for the launch of Kinect to differentiate Kinect from it's motion controlling competition.  To that end I think the first round of Kinect games have been specifically chosen to not need/use the controller.

Once they feel they have solidified that image (of "controller free") they can start bringing games in which utilze standard controllers in conjunction with Kinect.

That is at least my 2 cent anlaysis of the situation.