Atheism and morality

[dib8rman]

richardhutnik said:

dib8rman said:

Universal Human Rights is content for secular conversation.

So, exactly what universal see of agreed to values is going to be selected in order to be able to determine what these rights are?  Do you want to value life as one of them?  If so, then do you want to agree when life begins so that matters?  And as far as "viable" goes, exactly what new born can fend for itself?  Anyhow, if you go down this path, then that means abortion is wrong, because it terminates a human (or potential human).

And who says that "rights" is the correct framework for formulation a system of ethics?

Wow I said that much?

What path? The one your on is thin as ice, probably because it is thin ice.

Religion is an integral part in most current societies ways of percieving their values, yet conversation of Universal Human Rights can only happen in a secular circle. In fact most advances and I mean real advances such as womens sufferage has gone against the buck hence why it met with so much resistance. This is of course if religion is such an integral part of society. That established values would now have to be percieved differently falls on the shoulders at least in part to religions established perception and all frictions incurred therein.

/gg

Again, Universal Human Rights is content for secular conversation. :)

To be fair though in the Koran a woman is seen as an equal to god and all his creations that are done in his image; that sounds nice doesn't it?

It's also established that a husband is a womans gateway to god, heaven and hell. =D Yay for clarity!