Homer_Simpson said:
HappySqurriel said:
Homer_Simpson said:
people on the far right are almost exclusively morons, who else would advocate backward social policy and hate everyone but themselves? hopefully not many!
im on the left, I value freedom, equality and fairness, my ideal world is one where people work together for human progress unhindered by the restraints of money, greed or self righteousness.
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Anyone who tries to define politics into a left-right divide where one side is intelligent and good and the other side are evil morons just demonstrate that they have no capacity for independent thought; and that they're just mindless partisans. Neither the left nor the right are more likely to defend freedom, they're just more likely to defend some freedoms and to infringe upon others; and neither side of the political spectrum maintains logical positions on a wide variety of issues. Consider your position that the left are defenders of freedom, how can this be when the left tends to be the most aggressive in their support for bans on cigarettes, junk food, video games and anything they deem unhealthy.
As a general guideline you can see the difference between left wing and right wing ideology as a divide between "equality of outcomes" vs "equalities of opportunities" ... In most situations you can see the left infringing on one person's rights or opportunities in order to try to change the outcome of another individual, while the right will infringe upon one person's rights or impact their outcomes to preserve another person's opportunities. Obviously, this is not a perfect explanation and you will find several issues which seem arbitrarily divided, but it works out as a decent general guideline.
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equality of outcome or opportunity is impossible in a Capitalist system
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How do you come to that conclusion?
Equality of opportunity (in many ways) has been achieved. Public education, scholarships, and student loans ensure that the poor black student has the same opportunity to go onto college as the wealthy white student. In situations where public education is so poor that the poor student doesn't (realistically) have that opportunity you will find conservative minded individuals supporting improving the educational system to promote equality of opportunity. In this situation equality of outcomes would be promoted by creating quotas that ensured a certain percentage of college students were poor black students regardless of whether they were qualified or not ...
