Atheism and morality

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richardhutnik said:

You do realize this is a hypothetical case I mentioned, predicated upon what I saying being true.  When doing one of these, why would the subject of what is being written be not what I stated?  The only other area you can say would be worth questioning is the motives and intentions of the being.  If the entity desires to cause pain and suffering, then no, what is discussed as a code of ethics is suspect. However, let's assume this true of the entity:

* The entity created the universe and fully knows how it works, and what will bring about results.

* The entity happens to desire that there not be pain and suffering and desires the best for the creation.

Given these being true, answer me why the creation would be able to come up with a superior ethical system than the entity that created the universe?

Nothing is perfect, and there could certainly be a moral system better than that concieved by the entity.

Your arguments rely too much on a hypothetical ideal situation.

But this discussion is pointless because:

1. There's no evidence that such an entity exists;

2. Your second point (the entity not being evil) may not be true even if the entity exists (and it will most likely still be failable even if it weren't evil).