Atheism and morality

[richardhutnik]

sapphi_snake said:

richardhutnik said:

sapphi_snake said:

@richardhutnik

An ethics system of an eternal being who created the universe would naturally be superior.

Faulty logic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

If you were to get rid of all external religious systems, and purge them, would you end up with the forum not needing moderators to keep out troubled individuals?

No.

If the authority is an expert in an area relevant to the subject at hand, you can then reference what the authority says.  In this case, the presumption here is that an eternal being, who has a monster set of knowledge, creates the universe.  This entity is said to know about the universe s/he created.  This entity then would be of said to explains the do's and don'ts regarding the universe at hand.  Thus, in this case, the entity would be superior with a set of ethics proposed than individuals in the system, who have an incomplete set of information.

 

Nope, it still is a logical fallacy. This alleged authority figure must present arguments for it's possition, else said figure could be lying. The fact that that supposed being is eternal, created the universe, and has a monster set of knowledge is no reason to belive it anything it says without being presented logical arguments. Like I said, the deity could be lying.

You do realize this is a hypothetical case I mentioned, predicated upon what I saying being true.  When doing one of these, why would the subject of what is being written be not what I stated?  The only other area you can say would be worth questioning is the motives and intentions of the being.  If the entity desires to cause pain and suffering, then no, what is discussed as a code of ethics is suspect. However, let's assume this true of the entity:

* The entity created the universe and fully knows how it works, and what will bring about results.

* The entity happens to desire that there not be pain and suffering and desires the best for the creation.

Given these being true, answer me why the creation would be able to come up with a superior ethical system than the entity that created the universe?