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theprof00 said:
dallas said:

meh.  keep in mind that the americans had to go find the japanese in island after island and fight every one of them.  Given the past experiences and all of the bonzai attacks etc, I think that it is quite rational to assume that the japanese wouldn't surrender for a while. 

What you said has nothing to do with the bombs.

There were still japanese surrendering 30 years after the war was over, unaware that a treaty had been signed due to island seclusion.....AFTER the bombing.

the whole point of the bombs was the assumption that the japanese wouldn't surrender.  At the very least, we should be looking at their willingness to fight even when outnumbered, the culture's emphasis on extreme motivation which pushed them to do things like the banzai attacks (hope that's spelled right)  ,  an analysis of the amount of people that could die in dropping a few bombs vs an attack on japan.  Also, the japanese that were unaware of the war's end doesn't have a lot to do with the discussion of whether the bombs ultimately saved lives, or not