johnsobas said:
PearlJam said:
Yes people always forget about the Soviet factor. They didn't help against Japan right away because they wanted to see if the Americans could handle it, and they felt they had done enough in Europe. After the Soviets saw that the Americans were going to struggle for a while, they declared war against Japan. Just imagine what would have happend if you had the Red army invade from the North, and the Americans come in from the South. This would have dragged on and the Soviets would have let the Americans take the majority of the casaulties, since the Soviets always felt that the other allies used them as cannon fodder for the Germans.
Japan would have been torn to shreds, and the people (specially women) would have suffered in terrible ways. Just look at how the Russian army raped the shit out of Germany after they were occupying them. The bombings were bad, but the other options were far worse.
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what? It was America and Britain that purposefully didn't invade Berlin even though they arrived first and let the soviets do it alone, which cost Russia 500,000 casualties, more than the US lost in the ENTIRE WAR. Although indeed Russia was a part of the reason they dropped the bomb, certainly the second bomb. They didn't want Russia to come to Japan but not for the reasons you say.
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Your statements about the Soviets in Germany don't contradict anything I said. The Soviets always felt that they were the ones that did most of the fighting, and suffered most of the casualties against Germany. The Americans and British didn't invade Berlin because they didn't want to do all the hard work and take heavy losses when they knew the Russians were eager to do it.
The reason Americans didn't want Soviets in Japan is simple. They didn't want a Communist Japan.
