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sapphi_snake said:

@richardhutnik

The reality is this: A sound ethical system doesn't come out of a single person reasoning on something.

Then i suppose you agree that following the moral system proposed by your deity or by Jesus is foolish.

If people happened to be all reasonable, good natured, and rational, then you wouldn't have people banned on forums on this.

I never said all peopel always act rational, but rather they should act that way.

In your case, do you presume it is all these vile and disgusting religious system that we just purged, we would no longer have a need for moderators on forums like this?

There may be some mistakes in this phrase. I don't understand what you're asking.

The points:

* My comment on people refers to "humans".  An ethics system of an eternal being who created the universe would naturally be superior.  Anyhow, if you want to go with the Christian faith, the principle of establishing is by having multiple witnesses agreeing to what they see.  It isn't one person alone who discusses.

* And I would say fairly depraved people are rational and use their reasoning to justify their being depraved.  Reason merely helps you organize data in a logically consistent manner.  Reason alone can't give you the answers you need.

* In your case, since you are now a non-theist, I wanted to ask you about the sources of disruptions on here and what is considered bad manners, and so on.  If you were to get rid of all external religious systems, and purge them, would you end up with the forum not needing moderators to keep out troubled individuals?