Atheism and morality

[Homer_Simpson]

pizzahut451 said:

Homer_Simpson said:

Stalin was not a communist, he was a nationalist... oh cmon, you have got to be kidding me here... May i ask why did his country's flag had communist emblem on it?

he didnt kill in the name of atheism...he did it because he thought his nation and its ways were supreme...same with most people like him, religious leaders though often used there religion as an excuse for this or it motivated them rather than just nationalism.So if someone uses nationalisam or communisam as an excuse its ok, but if he uses religion than religion itself is bad??? Please stop the blushit.

they werent killed by him for believing in god, but for not conforming... The didnt conform because they believed in God and Stalin was an atheist and killed them  to promote his communist regime that promotes atheisam..heck, the very idea of nationalism is inherently similar to religion, both want those who dont conform to them to "burn in hell" as such...

many dictators misused the communist ideology and misunderstood what it was about so used it to promote there nationalism, true communism/communists would not do this, i.e, anyone who says they are a "Nationalist Socialist" or "Nationalist Communist" doesnt have a clue what Socialism or Communism actually stand for.

not what im saying, they are all bad excuses, the primary distinction that need be made is that religion was the cause for many wars, atheism was not the cause, its fairly simple what im saying, but it seems the internet fails to grasp it.

again, no, he killed them for not supporting his nation and there ways, his being an atheist is not why he did it or his main reason for doing so, unlike the Crusades and Holy Wars

this is also irrelevant to the debate, religion itself has morals that are often backwards and regressive, which imo is almost as bigger threat as not having morals at all, religious interference in the state is incompatible with progressive democracy.