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MrBubbles said:
Badassbab said:
MrBubbles said:
Badassbab said:
MrBubbles said:

if there were good moral examples of atheists to hold up then people wouldnt assume they are amoral.


That's possibly the most ignorant and simplistic comment in this thread. For a start moral behaviour is subjective and how about we hold examples up of immoral (insert religion here) religious people?


then they present examples of very upstanding and relatively alrtuistic believers and bring up immoral atheists.   atheists dont have the cache of "good guys" to wave about.

Who are 'they'? And seriously you're using the term 'good guy'? Why don't you name a 'good guy' from your 'cache'?

firstly, "they" would be the religious people...

secondly, Mother Teresa

Your making no sense. I said why not bring up a list of immoral people who profess to a religious belief (not terribly difficult) and you say they present examples of very upstanding and relatively altruistic believers?

Oh yes Mother Teresa, she was indeed a great lady but she was just as concerned about spreading Catholism and some of it's dated values as she was about caring for the needy. Heck she even saw spiritual goodness in being poor and sick and though she recieved millions in donations, the standards of healthcare could be suspect.