Atheism and morality

[mai]

The Fury said:

mai said:

As people have mentioned not quite right. Morale is a very pragmatic phenomenon that society needs to survive, most of moral prohibitions and guidelines are based around natural rules that could be easily explained (sometimes even biological rules, such as ban on incest in most cultures), of course, eventually some of them became imperatives that not necessarily need to or even could be explained.

True while many are morals can come from either the need to survive or as sapphi_snake said 'Greek philosophers' it is religious that spread these morals and religion that put them down in writing for generations to follow. 

Agreed, though take a broad view of things. Religion is such a good thing that it has to be created if it would have never existed. There're no substantial difference between religious moral and non-religious one besides deity issue. The only thing is relevant here is that all these moral codes are dogmas, undisputed ideas that got spread through conflict or willingly accepted by other people. Take for example this century history of spread of non-religious value systems (which undoubtedly entail propaganda of certain social morale dogmas) of socialism and modern day western morale. In more distant past various philosophers created such ideological system in ethics, e.g. confucianism which is considered a religion, but in fact never disputes deity issue, it's entirely social, ethic 'religion' (there're number of other similar examples).