Church plans to burn the Quran on Sept. 11

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TheRealMafoo said:

Final-Fan said:

TheRealMafoo said:

Final-Fan said:

But see there you go, that's exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about.  The Muslims going apeshit over the Koran bonfire are NOT all connected to terrorists.  It's not a coherent group or even necessarily shared philosophy like talking about "Radical Islam" may imply. 

Yes it is. There are many many radical Muslims connected to one another though organized religions institutions. 

What do you think Al-Qaeda is? 

Not a "religious institution".  But then I wouldn't say the Moral Majority was a religious institution either - rather a religiously motivated political organization.  Maybe you disagree? 

I don't really care what you call it, I am just saying these guys would not exist if not for Islam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

Al-Qaeda ideologues envision a complete break from the foreign influences in Muslim countries, and the creation of a new Islamic caliphate. Reported beliefs include that a Christian-Jewish alliance is conspiring to destroy Islam,[11] which is largely embodied in the U.S.-Israel alliance, and that the killing of bystanders and civilians is religiously justified in jihad.

That quote from wiki is wierd... because it is clearly stated in the Koran that Christians and Jews are disbelievers and so are part of the warring terretories in the eternal Jihad.

The realistic dose may just be that the Koran itself over the centuries has been an enabler, many never mention that after the Muslim prophet Muhammad there were many other alleged prophets who took to editing the Koran with divine revelations of their own. Al-Qaeda seems to be going about it in a more... western way and instead of just changing the Koran they are feeding off of it's intention to keep a constant aggression towards Non-Muhammad worshippers of one god. Honestly the if someone over the internet came and enacted or made clear a belief in the Koran's values today without me knowing that such a thing were involved in the real world then I would just face palm the rant.

It's clear to me that Ignorance in America towards Islam is a result of intention by the Islamics. I've had friends back in the early 90's who went 5%er but they would suddenly look at me like the enemy, years two of them appologized but I made it a point being that I believe in a right and equal justice to point out that Muslims to be specific the Arab Muslim were just as much if not even more so involved in the African/Black Slave trade as the white race. In fact the Arab Muslim in all his depravity would castrate the African Male (man or child) in a belief that their sexual tendencies were insatiable. The issue is that they still do it to this day.

Tolerance... in Egypt it is illegal to make or repair a house of worship if it is not muslim and thats a nation with good relation to Europe and US.

The Conquerer of Constaninople Mehmet II said all those who have another form of worship under him would be safe and may worship what he never mentioned to the world was that their children would be a tax to him and made to serve some seperated from all they knew. What he never said was that if they converted to Islam to leave the taxation they could never go back to their original religion without being branded apostate.

Not saying that Mehmet II was a bad guy. I never met him personally.

I just find that quote wierd because thats not the belief ot Al-Qaeda that is the value found in the Koran.