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I dont want to sound like an elitist, but I thought the whole point of 4GB 360 was for the peopel buying Kinect??? Since those games would be cheaper than core games and way more casual that audience wouldnt really care??? Why the hell are people buying 4gig 360s you cant do a damn thing with that. DL games are anywhere from 300MB to 2 whole gigs. and lets not even get into the install for games (I know there optional). I cant see how a "core" gamer would even waste money on this model. Hell my PSP has more memory than that